Christian Rock - Our battle cry:
Red letters = My responce.
Black letters = Responce from a Dangerous Cult leader.
Questian: Can you guess whats wrong with this picture? Here is an expert
reading fromon of the article from LOGOS Ministry;
Answer: "one of the pages they wrote in
the Past":
"The sexuality of ##################################################################t
commands a directly physical response"1 Music with the heavy, hard beat
got the name "Rock and Roll" when a disc jockey coined the term from in
the back seat of a car. "The rock beat is Satan's sound of lawlessness. The
rock beat is musical ##########. Every knowledgeable musician knows that
the term 'rock' really means a shameful act of lust"2 But that is not the
only problem! The beat of rock is nothing new. Pagan, animistic tribes had
the "rock beat" long before it came to America. They use the driving beat
to get "high" and bring them into an altered state of consciousness. "Traditional
drumming and dancing techniques are designed to achieve the Shamanic State
of Consciousness."3 You see, the beat "is a vehicle for demon infestation."4
Perhaps you are wondering, "can you really support that quote?" My answer
is yes. In have a video interview with a missionary that does just that!
I offer this transcript of the interview with Iver Greenslade -- A.B.W.E.
(Association of Baptist For World Evangelism) Missionary "When we first
came up here (from the mission field) and heard the Rock Music, when it first
came out, my wife and I looked at each other and said this is something we
have been hearing all along. This is nothing new to us. It sounds just like
the jungle music. "I remember one furlough going back and we took some tapes
out.. Our children had slipped one of these contemporary Christian music
tapes, Christian Rock. Shall we put it in quotation marks? Really there is
no such thing as "Christian" Rock. Rock is rock and it is connected to Spiritism.
"When our children played that tape, suddenly the brethren wanted to know
why we were playing the music of the demons. They recognized it right away.
"All of this contemporary Christian music as they call it, the people who
are in Animism recognize it right away as their demonism music. You will
find that this [rock] music and Animism is the same in the Amazon Jungle
as it is in North America. It is all related to Spiritism."
Answer: They are doing a dangerous type of criticism called condemning
Christian Rock. Here are the myths of music that anti-christian rock apolagetics
uses.
1. The sexuality of ##################################### of rhythm it
is the beat that commands a directly physical response Music with the heavy,
hard beat got the name"#########################n the back seat of a car.
"The rock beat is Satan's sound of lawlessness. 2. ################################################################n
knows that the term 'rock' really means a shameful act of lust" But that
is not the only problem! The beat of rock is nothing new. Pagan, animistic
tribes had the "rock beat" long before it came to America. 3. They use the
driving beat to get "high" and bring them into an altered state of consciousness.
"Traditional drumming and dancing techniques are designed to achieve the
Shamanic State of Consciousness." 4. You see, the beat "is a vehicle for
demon infestation."
"WRONG!!!!"-- Heres proof!
Now, here is the truth about music that God created.
1. Music is not sexuality, It is not fornification. Its in the lyrical
content of the song that makes it wether good or evil. A drum beat is not
evil, A note is not evil, instraments are not evil. Its in the lyrical content
of the song that makes it Good or bad. For example: a song with Bible-centered
lyrics is Holy and Good (Whitecross, Petra). On the other hand, a song
with Bad, Evil, Filthy Worldly lyrics makes the music bad and evil (Metallica,
Iron Maiden, AC/DC). there you have it, A musical beat is not evil.
2. A Musical Beat is not paganism. God created every music. That includes
musical tones, Musical beats, Harmony, Bass, Trebel and so on... God even
created sound. What God has created is not religion. Man did not create song
beats, God created it. God is the author of music. Music is not shamefulness,
it is holy and good - created by God. God did not creat shame, man created
shame.
3. A song beat is not of the occult, Music is spiritual and holy. A song
beat is not a drug to get high on. Yes, Dancing is in the bible (Read Psalms
30:11 to proove it). Dancing brings joy to every believer. Music is not shaminism.
You can tell straight from the root - Shaminism does not tell us how to
repent, be baptized into the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, and to follow
the Lord Jesus Christ our saviour.
4. the drum beat of a christian song is not "a vehicle
for demon infestation." It is holy. No where in the whole Bible does it tell
that music is evil. No where in the whole Bible does it tell that Man created
music. No where in the whole Bible does it tell that satan created music
(Satan does not create, he only perverts and desatroys). No where in the
whole Bible does it tell that a certain beat of a song is evil. Ecclesiasties
7:5 Reads: It is better to hear the rebuke of the wise then for a man to hear
the song of fools. The words "song of fools" is talking about worldly secular
rock music.
Hear is another deadly example:
hear is a letter from Peter Peters and Vasilij Ryzhuk, MUSIC FROM HELL!
From the "Head of the Unregistered Union of Churches in Russia" appeared
in "Life", dated 21, May, 1992 For thirty years we have suffered intense
persecution. Now freedom is bringing another great harm to our churches.
This damage is coming from Christians in America who are sending rock music
and evangelists accompanied by rock bands. Our young people do not attend
those meetings because we have all committed not to participate in secular
entertainment. This is a great burden to our hearts. Many come with Bible
in hand and rock music. We are embarrassed by this image of Christianity.
We do not know what words to use in urging that this be stopped. We abhor
all Christian rock music coming to our country. Rock music has nothing in
common with ministry or the service to God. We are very much against Christian
Americans bringing to our country this false image of "ministry" to God. We
need spiritual bread... not false cakes. It is true that rock music attracts
people to the church, but not to Godly living. We were in prison for fifteen
years for Christ's sake. We were not allowed to have Christian music, but
ROCK MUSIC was used as a weapon against us day and night to destroy our souls.
We could only resist with much prayer. Now, we have a time of more openness.
We are no longer taken to prison. However, now it is Christians from America
who damage our souls. We do not allow this music in our church, but these
"evangelist" rent big stadiums and infect teenagers and adults with their
rock music. We, the leadership and congregations of the Unregistered churches
urge you to join with us, and we advise you to remove rock music from America.
Do not desecrate our teenagers with it. Even the unbelievers recognize it
is unholy music. We call this music, "music from hell." We urge all Americans
to stop giving money for the organizations of such concerts in Russia. We
only want traditional Christian music in our churches. This is the unanimous
decision of all our leaders. Peter Peters and Vasilij Ryzhuk, Unregistered
Union of Churches, Moscow, Russia, April 15, 1992.
"WRONG!!!!"-- Heres proof!
In the first place, God does not answer prayers
that say to stop a ministry from flowing.
Seconoly, To tell a believer in christ to stop doing the work of God is
down-right dangerous! It is also blasphemy to stop the work of the almighty
God! You know what this means " the unpardonal sin"! we all should never
ever stop the work of God wether evangelism or Christian rock, we should
never ever condemn it.
There are many, many examples on the web that condemn christian rock that
we need to keep in prayer for them to change their personalities concerning
Christian rock and still, we also need to love them as dear brothers in
the Lord.
Hear are some examples: FREEDOM MINISTRIES, P.O.
BOX 1, BUSHMILLS, CO. ANTRIM BT57 8AL. N.I.. THE ROCK MINISTRIES P.O.
Box 2181 BLOOMINGTON INDIANA, 47402 Here is another example from LOGOS
Ministry: http://logosresourcepages.org/rock.html
This message will focus on "Christian" Rock Music. The Incorporation
of Rock Music Into Christianity IS a "strange fire" offering to the Lord.
When Rock Music first came onto the scene Bible believing churches recognized
it for what it was...the music of sex and rebellion. No Christian ministry
praised Elvis' gyrating pelvis. Even Rock Stars called a spade a spade.
For example, in 1969, Life magazine quoted Rock star Jimi Hendrix: "through
music, you can hypnotize people...and when you get them at their weakest
point, you can preach into the subconscious minds what we want to say." Rocker
Hendrix knew what he was talking about. He continued, "Definitely I'm trying
to change the world." Music has an awesome power to mold the thinking of
the masses and particularly the youth and rock musicians know it. Crosby
of Crosby, Stills & Nash made that plain enough when he bragged, "I figured
that the only thing to do was steal their kids. I still think it's the only
thing to do...I'm not talking about kidnapping...but about changing young
people's value system."1 Can music change someone's value system? Is that
possible? Allow Lenoard Bernstein to answer. "Music is something terribly
special...it doesn't have to pass through the censor of the brain before
it can reach the heart...an F-sharp doesn't have to be considered in the
mind; it is a direct hit, and therefore, all the more powerful."2 Now,
I want you to note, we are talking about music, not words to music. Music
has power, either for good or evil! Let me explain. Godly music has strong
melody. "The part of music to which the spirit responds is the melody."3
Ephesians 5:18-19 shows that the most prominent part of music should be melody.
"And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;
Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and
making melody in your heart to the Lord;" 1 Samuel 16:23 shows the powerful
affect for good music can have. "And it came to pass, when the evil spirit
from God was upon Saul, that David took an harp, and played with his hand:
so Saul was refreshed, and was well, and the evil spirit departed from him."
That brings us to harmony. "The part of music to which your mind responds
is the harmony. Harmony is the intellectual part of music."4 Harmony is
to be secondary but not primary. Then there is the rhythm. "Rhythm is
the pulse of the music."5 Too much (or erratic) pulse ----------- Body is
sick Too much (or erratic) rhythm -------- Music is sick No pulse -------------------------------------
Body is dead No rhythm ----------------------------------- Music is dead
Pulse under control ---------------------- Body is well Rhythm under control
------------------- Music is well "The sexuality of music is usually referred
to in terms of rhythm it is the beat that commands a directly physical response"6
Music with the heavy, hard beat got the name "Rock and Roll" when a disc
jockey coined the term from sex in the back seat of a car. "The rock beat
is Satan's sound of lawlessness. The rock beat is musical perversion. Every
knowledgeable musician knows that the term 'rock' really means a shameful
act of lust"7 But that is not the only problem! The beat of rock is nothing
new. Pagan, animistic tribes had the "rock beat" long before it came to America.
They use the driving beat to get "high" and bring them into an altered state
of consciousness. "Traditional drumming and dancing techniques are designed
to achieve the Shamanic State of Consciousness."8 You see, the beat "is a
vehicle for demon infestation."9 Perhaps you are wondering, "can you really
support that quote?" My answer is yes. In have a video interview with a missionary
that does just that! I offer this transcript of the interview with Iver Greenslade
-- A.B.W.E. (Association of Baptist For World Evangelism) Missionary "When
we first came up here (from the mission field) and heard the Rock Music,
when it first came out, my wife and I looked at each other and said this
is something we have been hearing all along. This is nothing new to us. It
sounds just like the jungle music. "I remember one furlough going back
and we took some tapes out.. Our children had slipped one of these contemporary
Christian music tapes, Christian Rock. Shall we put it in quotation marks?
Really there is no such thing as "Christian" Rock. Rock is rock and it is
connected to Spiritism. "When our children played that tape, suddenly the
brethren wanted to know why we were playing the music of the demons. They
recognized it right away. "All of this contemporary Christian music as they
call it, the people who are in Animism recognize it right away as their demonism
music. You will find that this [rock] music and Animism is the same in the
Amazon Jungle as it is in North America. It is all related to Spiritism.
" It's time to wake up folks - We need to be aware
of those who Does this kind of sinful stuff called condemning Christian
Rock music, and tries to take Christian Rock away from us. Stand firm and
strong faithfully in Christ Jesus. I believe that, there are many christians
who love to listen to Christian Rock and Christian Metal, It is a mighty blessing
from the Lord to them. We believe that God gave us all music to enjoy to
the glory of the Lord. Only God created music and the arts. Satan did not
create music, he destroyed it, and God has taken the gift of music away from
lucifer when he fell and He gave it to us.
We can take back what satan has stolen from us by the blood of the Lord
Jesus Christ in victory. We read in Genesis 50:20 (Bat as for you, ye thought
evil against me; But God meant it unto good, to bring to pass, as it is this
day, to save much people alive.) Now lets apply it to Psalms 33:3. Sing
unto the Lord a new song; play skilfully with a loud noise. Did you catch
that? This means that we can take back what satan has stolen from us and
to use it to the glorify God with it. God has given us the ability to use
music and the arts to spread the gospel to every nation and for even Spiritual
Warfare, and for the most important part, to glorify the Lord. Praise the
Lord for these scriptures in the word of God.... So, when someone tells you
to stop listening to Christian Rock, Don't listen to them. Defend your greatest
Gift of Christian Rock. Show them that Christian rock came from God to use
it as a ministry tool for Spiritual Warfare and to spread the Gospel to every
one who needs Jesus. "It's time to stand our grounds" Even if it means war...
There are many different kinds of instruments
in the world today that we can use to glorify the Lord with. Everything
from a piano to electric guitars, We can use it all to bring the goodnews
of the word of God to the
Lost.
Verse 6. With trumpets and the sound of a horn;
Shout joyfully before the Lord, the King. We can joyfully
worship God with instraments. The horn symbolizes Salvation in God and the
trumpet “ the wake up call”. That means that we need to wake up and be alert
when it comes to Spiritual Warfare. We need to warn every nation about whats
going on in Spiritual Warfare. We cannot stand idly by and ignore it. We
need to share the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ and his saving grace of
salvation. Every lost soul needs Jesus to save them. Our Big Job is to share
it to the full. Like peddle to the meddle. Verse 7. Let the sea roar,
and all its fullness, The world and those who dwell in it;
Let the rivers clap their hands; Yes, We can use sound-effects to
bring glory to God and to spread the Gospel. There are many example that
use wild sound-effects in Christian Rock albums. ( Chatterbox-despite: the
8th track, almost 100% ambiance with lyrics that speaks about all of the
tribulations in the world today and that Jesus can deliver us from hard-times
on this earth, Mortification-Scrolls of the megaloth: the very first part
of the first song on side two in the intro part is pure organic synthesized
ambiance, Deitiphobia-Fear of the Digital remix: Almost every song on that
album has ambient sound-effects in them with Biblical lyrical Truths in them,
Ambient Theology-Self Titled: Most of the songs on the album have ambiance
in them, Saviour Machine Legend I and Legend II: In these two albums- Hear,
Ambient sound-effects are used to teach prophecy foretelling the coming Messiah
). Even many Christian Rock groups use ambient sound-effects in their albums,
they all bring glory to God, to spread the word of God to the Lost. Sound
can also tell a story, Just like opera. It is a vessel that can be filled
with pure words that can witness to the lost that Jesus can save their souls
from hell. We can use sound to spread the goodnews of the Gospel to the lost
by filling it with Biblical Lyrics that witness Salvation to them. Verse
8. Let the hills be joyful together before the Lord, There is joy in
worshipping God, hills are the symbol of spreading the Gospel to the lost.
A city on a hill cannot be hid. We need to show forth the Gospel of our Lord
Jesus Christ to the lost. Witnessing to the lost brings joy to the soul of
every believer in the Lord. It makes God happy when we witness the Gospel
to the Lost, even if we use Christian Rock as a tool to attract all the non-believers
to the Saving Gospel that saves them from destruction. Without Jesus or without
the Gospel, there would not been a second chance of life everlasting. We
are glad that there is a Gospel and Jesus “as a witness that there is a Gospel
truth” to save our souls. Thank God for a second chance-Praise the Lord,
that we even can use Christian Rock as a witnessing tool to spread the Saving
Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. Verse 9. For He is coming to judge the
earth. With righteousness He shall judge the world, And the peoples
with equity. Jesus is our righteous judge who will come to this earth
to judge the righteous and the unrighteous. He will sepperate the sheep from
the goats on that day. This is prophecy that verse 9 speaks about. One perfect
example that teaches prophecy and the last judgement of Christ is Saviour
Machine. Every album talks about prophecy and the coming Messiah. (Self-titled,
Legend I & Legend II, Saviour Machine) to name a few. They are great
albums to listen to when we want to study prophecy. Weopons of our Warfare
by deliverance is a great witnessing tool for telling every one abut Spiritual
Warfare. Spiritual Warfare is prophecy being fulfilled by this very minute.
In the last days there are sewers of satanic stuff flooding our streets even
on the internet. We need to be carefull on how we live on this earth especially
in the last days. Jesus is coming soon and we got to be ready to meet him
in the air. Ther we we have it, Christian Rock in light
of Psalms 98, These ar 9 reasons that we can Use Christian Rock and Christian
Metal as a tool for spreading the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ to the
Lost. Every lost soul needs this kind of hope of eternal life in Christ.
It is our Big Job to share it to every nation that needs Jesus to save them
from destruction and hell. We need to help those in need of a Saviorthat
brings hope to a dying world. Submitted by: Michael Powell Updated: March 29, 2003.